[kdewebdev-site] Drupal review

[Andras Mantia]

Hi,

On Saturday 21 April 2007, Jacob Caudill wrote:
> > 1) slow workflow when building the site. The fact that I have to
> > use a web interfaces and work through the net doesn't really
> > satisfy me. I like the quick preview in Quanta, even through a
> > local server.
>
> The only way I could see this working is to have the site template
> setup in quanta and then write your html content into the template,
> using quanta to preview. Once it is as you like it, you can then
> paste it into the drupal web form.

Yes, I imagined something like that.

> Drupal is VERY well thought out and they provide a very cool feature
> making switching between different server environments pain-less. See
> this: http://drupal.org/node/53705

Thanks for the link, seems to be interesting.

> There are several javascript based editors, these things often annoy
> me and rewrite my code, but I have a lot of experience fighting these
> things so I can tell you how to set it up to leave your code the hell
> alone. Not sure what you were referring to with katepart unless you
> mean code completion etc. if so, then you could certainly write the
> content in quanta and the paste into the webform

For katepart I meant syntax highlighting, line numbers, code folding, 
indentation, etc. For Quanta addition I meant code completion, context 
help, HTML validation. And of course, it should not mess up the 
code. :)

> > 4) Probably mass-changing of the pages (e.g. changing links there)
> > can be painful, because the pages are stored in a database (no file
> > search&replace).
>
> if they are reused a lot on the site then they should be created as
> blocks. 

You mean "external files", not Drupal blocks, right?

> if you mean links in the general content then yes this is a 
> valid drawback to storing content in a DB, but a small gripe relative
> to the value add a db brings.

Links was just an example, but yes, this is what I meant, the DB system 
gives less power to the developer to mass-manipulate the files. 

> Maybe try to schedule an IRC meeting where we can all brainstorm
> about it in real time and figure out exactly what the sites need to
> do, then make sure drupal can handle all of their needs gracefully.

We will see if there is a real need for this. So far I believe this 
mailing list is also good for discussion. 

> Andras, you will likely remember me, we spoke a year or so ago about
> a bug and I was going to send you suse 10.1cs but it turned out 10.1
> was a horrible release. Let me know if you need 10.2(it is a very
> nice release).

Yes, I do. Luckily two good things happened meantime: I have access to a 
net connection where I can download bigger amount of data and Novell 
was kind enough to send me boxed sets of 10.1 and 10.2 as well because 
I filed some bug reports and helped with the testing.

> I would be glad to try and answer any more questions you might have
> about using drupal, theming it, etc.

Thank you.

Andras

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