[kdewebdev-site] Proposed KdeWebDev site structure <- Final?

[Bill Chmura]

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On Wednesday 03 March 2004 03:45 am, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:27, Eric Laffoon wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 12:09 am, Andras Mantia wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 07:25, Bill Chmura wrote:
> > > > So is this good with everyone?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quanta Plus
> > > > Kommander
> > > > KImageMapEditor
> > > > Ksxldbg
> > > > Kfilereplace
> > > > News (agregator of news throughout project)
> > > > Download (???)
> > > > Support  (links to specific subsites and support there)
> > > > Developer area
> > >
> > > I need another entry for another application (as I hat SF's way of
> > > updating and uploading things). It's called Kallery and hopefully it
> > > will be integrated to kdewebdev during the following months.
> >
> > Did you miss the review? It's too late to submit it again. ;-)
>
> Maybe.
>
> > Do you want me to get you a subdomain? I hate to ask, but will you really
> > have time? It's now facing a lot of similar programs. Do you want to
> > conduct a review to optimize the feature set and integration with Quanta
> > with me? It's really pretty close to being at the level we would need,
> > but I'm sure you would have done even better now. Anyway if you're going
> > to move your baby we should do it.
>
> I still have requests for it, sometimes even help offered, and I think it
> still has big potential. Some of our Quanta uses use it as well. The
> integration can be done max. in a week or so, and I'd need a space for it
> (if it's
> a subdomain, it's better). Recently it was removed from freshmeat, as the
> virtualartisans server was not reachable. So yes, I'd like to have a place.
>

I think Eric had mentioned that this was coming down the pike... do you want 
to get it in now, or just add it onto the site as it comes up.  Luckly the 
web is not a permanent medium.



> > > Also regarding support: I'd like to NOT have a support e-mail link
> > > which point to Eric's and my email address. This is fine to get some
> > > feedback, or even to try to users that they should use a newer Quanta
> > > to get rid of bugs, but: - often we got reports like "doesn't work". No
> > > version, etc. specified. If you are forced to use bugs.kde.org, than
> > > you have to provide some more information there, which is good
> > > - the mails can be forgotten, while reports on bugs.kde.org are there
> > > until someone closes them
> > > - for general support they can write to the users list
> > > - sometimes they give non-existant email addresses, so I can't reach
> > > them with the answer
> > > - it's just too much mail arriving in a non-organized way.
> >

I agree wholeheartedly... bug reports should be reported into a bug tracking 
system.  It makes life tons easier for everyone....   Depending on the level 
the support navigation button it will display different information.   For 
example, at some levels it exists only to give the prospective user that 
extra level of comfort (it would contain a brief discussion of what is 
available for support - and maybe a link to the relevant support section for 
those dim-of-mind.  So the above mentioned support section would talk about 
the active mailing lists, archives (if we have archives), forums, and 
bugtracking...  Oh yeah, and all of Eric's email addresses and home phone 
numbers :P

> > Those are very good points, but I think they haven't been proposed to be
> > copied.
>
> I know, but I had this in my mind since long time and wanted to be clear
> that I don't want to see a similar support link on the new site.
>
> > They originated prior to being in the KDE CVS and maybe even before
> > KDE had bugzilla. You're right. I will be glad when they are gone.
> >
> > BTW we can validate emails and then query the server to leave only a
> > legitimate forgery as a bad option. Sourceforge for some reason puts a
> > non address in the from for those not logged in even though we gather
> > their address. So you have to go to the body and copy it. I hate that.
>
> I know, but it happened that even that address didn't work and I get back
> mails that "user does not exists". :-0 How can I reach a reporter if he
> gives me an invalid address?

If its on a form, you could do eric's validation and then also validate with 
the remote server to see if the user exists... although in the world of spam 
today that may no longer be possible.

>
> Andras

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Bill Chmura
bill at kdewebdev.org
KdeWebDev/Quanta site development project
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