[kdewebdev-site] Quanta Public Site Structure < final ?

Bill Chmura Bill at KdeWebDev.org
Wed Mar 3 02:18:29 EST 2004


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On Wednesday 03 March 2004 02:03 am, Eric Laffoon wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 March 2004 10:34 pm, Bill Chmura wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 01:11 am, Eric Laffoon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 02 March 2004 9:21 pm, Bill Chmura wrote:
> > > > Okay, to keep us on track and moving in a direction...  (any
> > > > direction)... I've rechecked through... and while we had a lot of
> > > > good discussions on this and that, not much has changed.
> > > >
> > > > So I put forth that this is a good navigation structure to start with
> > > > for the Quanta site...  A trick I have learned in corporate life is
> > > > to ask if anyone objects instead of asking for approval.  Approval
> > > > takes effort... If no one answers it means it must be okay right?
> > >
> > > A trick? You mean ask Monday at 2 AM and commit at 3 AM? ;-)
> >
> > What's with the entire hour between?  Someone could actually read email
> > in that great big gap!
>
> Time to fall asleep drooling on the keyboard? ;-)
>
> > > > Home
> > > > Features
> > > > ...Quanta Can...  (Was its own heading before)
> > >
> > > If I might comment, if there is a better phrasing that doesn't sound
> > > like "The Little Engine That Could" I'd support it. Maybe "Quanta in
> > > Action" because it also denotes action as in something happening as
> > > opposed to the tendency to relate "an" to "could" which is less
> > > dynamic.
> >
> > I am up for suggestions... I was thinking the subsections could be
> > titled: Quanta can help with your project management, Quanta can work
> > with PHP, etc, etc...  I love the concept, but I am not married to the
> > wording...
>
> I love the concept too, and I would be willing to hear other ideas. My
> marketing side says "strong words that connote action". And if we could
> make the cursor change from a 98 lb weakling with buck teeth to a Mr
> Olympia rocket scientist when it passes over the link, maybe change the
> background from Rosanne Barr in front of a Volkswagon to several Hawaiian
> Tropic models in front of a Ferarri that's good too. ;-)

No.

No. 

Hey, did I mention... No.

I all seriousness, we are heading into an area that we called "analysis 
paralysis" when I was managing software projects.  My grandfather had another 
equally impressive term from his corporate days called "Shit or get off the 
pot".   The web is nice because its not permanent.  We are not going to make 
a decision and then have 100,000 prints made of it.  So we can massage it 
after, later, ongoing, and even after we see it.  

>
> > > This also could be a rather involved section because it could have
> > > subsections for PHP, XML, projects, etc...
> > >
> > > > ...Comparison chart
> > >
> > > This is as we discussed comparing to professional tools or would we
> > > prefer just a feature chart? Is Chris doing his wizardry here?
> >
> > Both
>
> I guess that's both as in (A !B) && C ;-)

No.  WTF is that?  I need sleep.  I should make a rule to not open emails 
after 2am.

>
> > > > Screen Shots
> > > > Quanta News  (Was Quanta in the news)
> > >
> > > Do we want to make this kdewebdev news? Do we want to subsection it for
> > > "news for this app" or "news for the module"?
> >
> > We are heavy with PHP talent on the team.  I am envisioning a news
> > management program that will be able to handle the news for all the
> > sections.  For example, anyone authorized to do so, can create a news
> > item and set it to a specific project and also if its big news.  News
> > pages can be generated from the news based on criteria for any given
> > page:
> >
> > So in the Quanta development section - it can display Quanta development
> > items
> >
> > In the main Quanta section - Quanta news
> >
> > In the main KDEWEBDEV page, all news flagged as being that important
> > would be listed.
> >
> > Thats it in a nutshell... I've not done much more thinking than that -
> > but the concept is there... the levels and stuff like that need to be
> > worked out and all.   Also it could be used for an rss feed generator.
>
> I like it!

I want to frame that block of text and put it up on my wall... :)

>
> > > > Testimonials
> > > > Get Quanta!
> > > > ...Requirements
> > > > ...Installing
> > > > ...Donate to Quanta
> > >
> > > I don't see how this goes here. I think it goes in a "Get involved"
> > > section, which may be a good phrasing, along with "sponsor
> > > development", "join the programmers" and scripting, templates, site,
> > > etc...
> >
> > My thought was that the user would be at a stage where they were
> > interested in Quanta and it would be a good time to put a bug in their
> > ear...   We can also have it in other sections.  That was my thought.
>
> That's my kind of schlocky design. ;-)
>
> > > > Support
> > > > FAQ
> > > > User Support Area
> > > > Developer Support Area  (Link to developer.kdewebdev)
> > >
> > > Actually we might want to look at the kde.org pages for a bit just to
> > > see what fundamental menuing elements we could commonly apply. I want
> > > the site to be a stand out, but I think we should be "not emulating"
> > > where we have good reasons and emulating where we don't have any
> > > particular reason not to. I don't know how much we would toss aside but
> > > it seems logical doesn't it?
> >
> > I don't see the point to following the KDE site.  We are not going to be
> > matching a look and feel (as far as I know), and I don't think that
> > people are going to be that used to the KDE site that when they come here
> > they are going to be confused.
>
> Okay... But there might be some inspiration there.
>
> Eric
>
> > > I will say I think that some KDE sites are a little too cluttered menu
> > > wise, but we should attempt some degree of consistency.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > > Going once, going twice...
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
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Bill Chmura
bill at kdewebdev.org
KdeWebDev/Quanta site development project
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