[kdewebdev-site] Proposed Quanta public site structure

[Eric Laffoon]

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On Tuesday 02 March 2004 12:45 pm, jacob coby wrote:
> --- Andras Mantia <amantia at kdewebdev.org> wrote:
> > ...even if the About Quanta dialog says:
> > "Quanta Plus is not in any way affiliated with any
> > commercial versions of
> > Quanta"
> >
> > Seems to be not enough.
>
> Who reads about dialogs?  The only ones I've ever read
> are the ones with easter eggs I could activate, and
> when I need to know what version I'm running.
>
> Back to the topic..
>
> I think the commercial disclaimer needs to be:
> - prominent at quanta.kdewebdev.org
It's been prominent on the other site
> - in the FAQ
Yes
> - on the license page
No, license only
> - possibly in the footer for all pages at
> quanta.kdewebdev.org
absolutely not. Unless people fully read it then it's nothing but free 
advertising like M$ bitching about Linux. Let them bitch. Before someone is 
going to spend money, if they know about both it stands to reason they will 
assess them to see if they can save a buck.

These guys don't have VPL, they don't have Kommander... I could go on. They 
shipped their first version without find and replace and I dont' think they 
would appear preferable now with any half hearted review of the features 
before spending money. They are not selling much of this. I know what their 
previous sales numbers were and I know that their effort here came up as a 
disspointment. The Korean company dropped it from their office suite before 
they split the sheets. If not for contract work those guys would be in real 
trouble. Believe me, I know.
>
> I know this all probably sounds a bit extreme, but the
> Quanta Plus v. Quanta Gold issue is very confusing.
> I'd almost go as far as to recommend changing the
> project's name ;) 

We're not having this discussion. It's history. If you want to read my account 
I'll get you a link. This is all because Alex loved the name and rejected the 
idea that they change it when they launched the commercial product. They also 
wanted to play on the confusion. Very few people are buying their freaking 
software and I will not be standing around pointing people to them so they 
can do their best to fleece them.

Once and for all. The job of this site is to convey the message that we have 
the best web development tool you can get right here... we make no inference 
that we're not really GPL or that we are just getting you hot for a closed 
source product. I don't think that's confusing. If someone happens to have 
heard of that product they can check us out.

I would also remind you that if they are running a KDE desktop remotely 
resembling default they have Quanta Plus installed. It will not only be 
confusing to fixate on them but it will appear like what it would be... 
fearing some weakness. The problem is their attempt to confuse. You can 
download their software for free and run it before buying it and you can get 
ours for free. If someone still want to spend money on theirs fine. Frankly I 
can't see how it would be an issue unless you're a total impulse buyer in 
which case when you write to say Quanta Plus is better I'll hit you up for a 
donation.

All of this negates a need to fixate on a program that is hardly maintained 
and doesn't begin to compare.

I might add this whole episode happened at the time I lost my mother who I was 
very close to and in the process I got some of the most condescending, rude 
and ignorant emails from Shawn Gordon I've ever gotten. It was a very 
difficult time. I don't have the time or the petty nature for enemies, but 
there are just a few poeple I wouldn't pee on if they were on fire and we are 
wasting time with one of them.

Eric

PS I was leaning toward changing the project's but it doesn't make sense with 
our user base and I didn't want to give Alex the satisfaction. Hey... Maybe I 
will do it after Quanta feldspar is discontinued. ;-)

>
> -Jacob
>
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