[kdewebdev-site] Localisation

[Chris Hornbaker]

On Thursday 29 April 2004 19:22, jacob coby wrote:
> --- Chris Hornbaker <chrishornbaker at earthlink.net>
>
> wrote:
> > Your perception is incorrect, as what Jacob showed
> > is exactly what I do,
> > except I make it easier for translators by using the
> > tools/formats of the
> > trade.
>
> What I showed was what was generated _after_ whatever
> localization tools got done with the original input.
> I had always planned on using the gettext tools to do
> the actual translation.
>
> I honestly don't know how much overhead gettext() has.
>  If it's comparable to a php include like I outlined
> earlier, let's just use that.  If it won't scale
> beyond a handful of simultaneous connections, we
> obviously need to try something else.

I use gettext only to pull out the strings. There's problems with PHP's 
gettext related functions (vars don't work well, for one).

>
> > Also, with Jacob's and D's design, you have one file
> > per translation per file,
> > which creates a huge mess of files to deal with and
> > possibly you have
> > translators messing with more markup than they
> > should. This is the exact
> > reason why I initially liked kde.org's design so
> > much.
>
> So your design has only one file for all translations?

No, it has 1 file per top-level directory. For the kdewebdev sites, that means 
1 file for quanta.kdewebdev.org, 1 file for kommander.kdewebdev.org, etc...

>  What happens if there are two different translators
> for the same language working on two different parts
> of the site?

They'll need to merge. Not much different than it would be in any other 
situation.

> Does having one large translation file cause a heavy I/O hit per page?

Currently, a little. The code can be refined (this is the logic I talked about 
in the proposal), so any i/o or mem consumption can be reduced.

>
> Whoever wants to throw their comments and code into
> the localization stuff, let's schedule a group chat
> (IRC, AIM, or Jabber, I don't care) and get this taken
> care of.  2 weeks seems like an excessive amount of
> time to handle something this simple.

How's about #kdewebdev on irc.freenode.net ?

> Eric: do you have statistics for the current Quanta
> website?  Hits, pages, transfer, things like that?
> It'd really be ideal if you had growth numbers (both
> past and predicted) so we know what we're shooting
> for.
>
> =====
> --
> -Jacob
>
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