[kdewebdev-site] First draft of www.kdewebdev.org vision statement - feedback requested

[Bill Chmura]

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On Saturday 10 April 2004 10:48 pm, Eric Laffoon wrote:
> I need to answer this when I'm not so tired, and now that I think about it
> I have new ideas for what we have... for instance...
> * Red Hat released 3.0pr1 in 8.0 which was a disaster
> * 3.1.4 had a serious delete bug in it

I can speak to this, since my first impression of Quanta was the delete bug 
wiping out a days worth of work.  Fortunately Eric was pretty quick in 
pointing out to me it was the RH distro I was using and that I should get a 
good version of quanta.  

A couple of suggestions - and since I have never worked with any distrobutions 
on this, clearly I am an authority on the topic :)

* Scheduled mailings to distributions each time a new stable release is used 
(as in "use this one") - although it would be like junk mail to them, so this 
is probably not good.

* I would say something that says "Distro information here", but then again if 
they don't have enough sense to use a stable release (RH) then anything you 
tell them will just go off into the ether...

* Damn, either way your screwed.  

> * Mandrake's 10.0 community release has a bad CVS snapshot
> Each of these "incidents", be they an accident on our part or less than
> spectacular judgement from a distribution, creates "noise" for us answering
> repetitive emails and doing damage control. 

Perhaps news items on the front page when its relevant... Like RH9 - for 
awhile after a news item that says "RH9 Shipped beta Quanta" with a link 
explaining the fix.

> Also we can see by the age of 
> them they become less relevent with time but highly relevent when they are
> first discovered. Clearly we need to do two things:
> 1) Disburse important information for easy assimilation by users, including
> smaller issues like little fixes that come up on mailing lists. Also this
> needs to have a maintainer.

News items?  See above.  I'd think a global news system to publish all across 
the site, but only relevant links shown in a given section.   A global news 
section could have the command and control in one place, and be used to 
populate given pages, build RSS feeds, even e-mail a newsletter out once a 
week to the user list, other interested parties, etc...  I'm putting 
something like this together for a client, but will most likely have my own 
version running.  Perhaps I'll have some lessons learned on that one.

> 2) We need to actively do damage control. For many that have binary
> distributions they have a subjective opinion of our product that can be
> donwright terrible! We need to be able to point them to a page, and frankly
> stick distributions, that have done less than good things, feet to the
> fire. We should seek to control our reputation and destiny.

Why on earth would redhat ship a beta?  Did they get it from CVS and compile 
it to include?  Did a user submit it to them as an RPM to include?  Does 
anyone know, because that could be a problem that could be addressed if we 
knew how.  

(I am not longer using RH, that was basically the final straw for me)






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